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White pine Jakarta, future cascade 7 years 11 months ago #21353

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This pine I found searching for Junipers, what was pleasantly, this tree had double the branches as any other that where to sell.

The trunk had a nice root curving on it too, these I like to expose in the future.

I took off the needle on the trunk, I changed the medium from rice husk to lava sand/compost ratio 3-1. As seen on the root picture, the medium had some dry spots in the husk.
The tree will be left alone until it has adjusted, then I will start bending it down to start the cascade. They are quite easy to bend but I still lack the desired experience.

I got one tree done 2 years back, pictures to follow (different topic). Any tips are highly welcomed. Again same like Juniper, pines are not native to the tropics, the seasons are missing, therefore new cones are coming at will, at any time, here my question, when do you actually cut the cones correctly on white pine? On my other tree I did it without experience, some have split and build new shoots (1-3) and others are only one. Any tips welcomed.

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White pine Jakarta, future cascade 7 years 11 months ago #21354

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Funny the pictures only edited one??















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White pine Jakarta, future cascade 7 years 11 months ago #21355

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BTW the finger points of the dry spots in the husk.






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White pine Jakarta, future cascade 7 years 11 months ago #21357

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I really have no idea how you think you can manage to turn this into a bonsai this way, let alone a cascade.

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White pine Jakarta, future cascade 7 years 11 months ago #21358

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I have done it before, I show you the pictures tomorrow, to late now!

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White pine Jakarta, future cascade 7 years 11 months ago #21373

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I took off the needle on the trunk


And with that, the possibility for future backbudding.

Sometimes I really wonder if you know what you're doing.

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White pine Jakarta, future cascade 7 years 11 months ago #21383

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@ Aux; Well keep on wondering or give some input, both are fine to me. I don't say I know everything, but sure enoughI will try everything.
As long the resources are available, and some positive feedback gets me further than for sure my knowledge increase. I learn from past mistakes, not doing everything by the book, not always succeed either. I don't say I am a master either.

I plan to develop, the side branches, when the cascade comes down, after the root system is strong enough. The needle on the main trunk will all die of, if I would not have taken them off, dot the wiring that will take place.

I posted this same topic on another forum, they say it may not be a white pine, so let see what they come up with, that may change the handling on this tree.

I started, this tree 2-3 years back with an Indonesian friend he gave me some input, but it is just hanging in there and for sure its not treated right, so I am looking for positive suggestions to get the new one on its way.



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White pine Jakarta, future cascade 7 years 11 months ago #21393

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@ Aux; Well keep on wondering or give some input


You know I do give proper input. When you started posting on this forum, you seemed quite made it seem you are very knowledgeable, so in this case I was wondering what your plan is.

Thanks for posting the picture, which, imho, does prove my point.

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White pine Jakarta, future cascade 7 years 11 months ago #21397

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Just to make sure.. This is not a pinus parviflora, the typically referred to white pine used in bonsai. They do not survive the tropics.

There are pine which are native to hot climates. This seems to be one of them. Is it a two, three of five needle pine?

I cannot keep wondering why you claim the climate is the cause of poor health of some trees. I know that all over brazil the junipers you are showing show great health. Yet they do not get cold temperatures either.

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White pine Jakarta, future cascade 7 years 11 months ago #21399

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I don't claim, this is what we all reckon in discussion over here. But than again, you got the experience and knowledge, so we listen.
I have no problem with that.

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