Thank you Leatherback, I agree with you for the most part, but it was kind of a gateway for me, I had attempted plants, not just Bonsai, multiple times with poor results. The gensing/ficus gave me hope and now I have 7 bonsai from reputable sellers that are alive and kicking, one that I am trying to bring back, and I am starting seeds for a variety trees. It reopened an Avenue that I had almost given up on