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How to Stop my Dying Jumbolan or Java plum bonsai 9 years 5 months ago #13250

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Hi

I have 4 year old Jumbolan bonsai now its green leaves new and old are turning black just like when you put excessive manure in normal plants.
similar like this:

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How to Stop my Dying Jumbolan or Java plum bonsai 9 years 5 months ago #13251

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Hi there, it may be just underwatering or a disease in my myy opinion. I may be wrong as i have never possesed a java plant.

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How to Stop my Dying Jumbolan or Java plum bonsai 9 years 5 months ago #13252

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Hi there, it may be just underwatering or a disease in my myy opinion. I may be wrong as i have never possesed a java plant.


What is the value of this post?
You're actually adding nothing of interest. Why do you keep doing that?

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How to Stop my Dying Jumbolan or Java plum bonsai 9 years 5 months ago #13253

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In order to try helping you with this problem I´m posting an image with the main/most usual problems that might occur to a tree´s leaves. The picture itself is written in Spanish, but I´m posting its translation here for you to understand it. Oh, the first 2 cases correspond to new leaves growth and the next 6 examples correspond to older or established leaves. (That is what the black line separates)

Hope this helps,

#1 Severe Nitrogen deficiency.
Small new leaves presenting a white/yellow coloration.

#2 Calcium deficiency
New pale and wrinkled growths (It could also be an overdose of potassium, magnesium)

#3 Iron Deficiency
Greenish nerves and old yellowish leaves

#4 Phosphate Deficiency (Phosphorus)
Older leaves presenting a yellow color with dark spots. The leaves die and fall rapidly (Note the similarity to early nitrogen deficiency)

#5 Magnesium Deficiency
Dark veins and old leaves with an extreme light green tint or shade

#6 Normal Leaf

#7 Early Signs of Nitrogen Deficiency.
Older leaves turn yellow, die and fall

#8 Potassium Deficiency
Very small holes with yellowish edges.

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How to Stop my Dying Jumbolan or Java plum bonsai 9 years 5 months ago #13254

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So, looking at your first picture and comparing with the list of possible problems I´m leaning to think it matches with item #7: Early Signs of Nitrogen Deficiency.

So, what you could probably do it´s to feed your plant with a fertilizer. The amount and frequency of the "treatment" would depend on the species, the fertilizer itself and the current season of the year. (Just follow the manufacturer instructions) ;)

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How to Stop my Dying Jumbolan or Java plum bonsai 9 years 5 months ago #13255

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So, looking at your first picture and comparing with the list of possible problems I´m leaning to think it matches with item #7: Early Signs of Nitrogen Deficiency.


Very useful post, I will keep that for my own reference.

However, if it was nitrogen deficiency, I would not expect the two spots. To me it looks like an infection, maybe a bacteria:
"The symptoms of bacterial spot are quite different from other diseases of stone fruits. They may be confused with nitrogen deficiency"

extension.psu.edu/plants/gardening/fphg/...eases/bacterial-spot

More info:
www.gardeningknowhow.com/edible/fruits/p...um-tree-diseases.htm

Control tips are at the bottom of this page.
I don't know if it is a bacteria or a fungus (both can cause similar effects):
www.planetnatural.com/pest-problem-solve...bacterial-leaf-spot/
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How to Stop my Dying Jumbolan or Java plum bonsai 9 years 5 months ago #13256

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Glad I can be of help.

However, if it was nitrogen deficiency, I would not expect the two spots


Sorry Auk, but I don't seem to see those two spots you are referring to. In the first picture I see no spots at all :blink:
Now, that said, after reading your first link I see that stone fruit trees are actually prone to suffer this kind of infestation, so I think I might have discarded other causes too fast and a bacterial disease could be present as well. :pinch:

Alain

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How to Stop my Dying Jumbolan or Java plum bonsai 9 years 5 months ago #13257

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Basically, what you read here means: No-one has a clue what it might be. There is too little information to make an informed choice of what is causing this.

- Have you recentely repotten?
- Changes fertilizing?
- where does it stand?

Have you checked whether you see any insects roaming around on the leaves?

I would choose in the area of bacterial, or perhaps fungal, infection of the stems/sapwood. This sort of die-off you often see in shrubs with a fungal infection in the phloem. But as IO do not know the circumstances, nor the species of plant you have there.. It is guessing for me too.

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How to Stop my Dying Jumbolan or Java plum bonsai 9 years 5 months ago #13259

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Dear Experts

What is the solution? I doesn't understand any thing form your discussion, sorry!

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How to Stop my Dying Jumbolan or Java plum bonsai 9 years 5 months ago #13260

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What is the solution? I doesn't understand any thing form your discussion, sorry!


Did you actually read my post?

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