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Shohin Chinese elm forest

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Posted 4 years 8 months ago #52334
I was thinking like this.
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Posted 4 years 8 months ago #52335

PhilipJohansen wrote: I was thinking like this.


Too symmetrical. You should not have so many even spaces between the trees.
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Posted 4 years 8 months ago #52336
Yeah, your right. How about this pot, and maybe take the one with biggest crown in the midle, and spred the other ones out? I can make a graft with numbers on the pot later.
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Posted 4 years 8 months ago #52337

PhilipJohansen wrote: I was thinking like this.


What do you think about this?

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Posted 4 years 8 months ago #52338
OMG, i love it!!! Thank you so much, i havent been dealing with this hobby for too long, so i dont have much creativity.

But this i love.
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Posted 4 years 8 months ago #52341

PhilipJohansen wrote: OMG, i love it!!! Thank you so much, i havent been dealing with this hobby for too long, so i dont have much creativity.


Good job indeed.

If I would change one thing, I'd swap the fattest tree on the far right with the one next to it.
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Posted 4 years 8 months ago #52345

Auk wrote: If I would change one thing, I'd swap the fattest tree on the far right with the one next to it.


I understand why, but with the height difference that will look akward.
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Posted 4 years 8 months ago #52354
The Elms are nice material! But to be honest: These trees are designed as solitaires; when trees in a forest are separated, they are very bold at the sides where other trees were, because of the lack of sunlight at these sides. In your case they aren't at all.... So if you want to make a forest with these trees you have to prune at lot.
Other point is that trees in a forest are often slimmer than these ones, and have different sizes..

A random example of a good Elm forest..
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Posted 4 years 8 months ago #52355

marco buijsman wrote:


Valid points. Especially the central tree is very much a solitaire. Still, you could put them a bit more apart than in your example. LB's example works for me, as does this one:

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Actually, I like this more. Your trees look like a young forest, while this looks like an older forest, where some of the trees died, while the others continued to develop, growing bigger canopies in the space that got freed up, leaving space between the trees where once the other trees where, and young trees no longer get a chance to develop.

Relatively young and not so developed trees are often used to make forests, as, while such trees individually are not that great bonsai, you still can get good results. Doesn't mean you cannot use more developed trees. On the contrary, I'd say.
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Posted 4 years 8 months ago #52356

leatherback wrote:

Auk wrote: If I would change one thing, I'd swap the fattest tree on the far right with the one next to it.


I understand why, but with the height difference that will look akward.


True, but you can fix that by:
- Making a hill and placing the smaller tree a bit higher and/or
- Tilt the bigger tree so it looks lower and/or
- Prune the bigger tree
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