Bonsai forum

Egg Shells

  • leatherback
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 8620
  • Thanks received: 3654

Replied by leatherback on topic Egg Shells

Posted 3 years 1 month ago #66803

Tropfrog wrote:
Calcium is totally ph neutral and dont affect ph at all. The eggs contains calcium carbonate, also called lime. When lime is broken down in a wet and acidic environment it releases calcium and carbonate. The carbonate part helps to neutralize the acidic environment and increase ph. If you have soil ph over neutral 7, lime will not break down and no effect on soil ph at all.

So egg shells will be very beneficial if you have acidic tap water and want to grow alkaline loving species. In this case you will find that egg shells not at all decompose slow, quite the opposite.


Sigh, yes, calcium carbonate.

And as you know very well.. too low a PH is rarely the problem. Too high however, is for many, as many have to deal with hard water, the reason why people transfor to rain water in many cases.

As for the speed of things,
www.gardenmyths.com/eggshells-decomposition-study/
by leatherback

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Tropfrog
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 4084
  • Thanks received: 1361

Replied by Tropfrog on topic Egg Shells

Posted 3 years 1 month ago #66823
Well. That link suggests that egg shells dont break down very fast in alkaline soil. That is perfectly expected as it takes acidic conditions to break down. I would not call it decompose as that is a process involving microbes eating organic matter. Egg shells are not organic matter, it is a quite common chemical compound. It has no nutritional value for the microbes. It is acid and water that breaks down egg shells and not microbes.
by Tropfrog

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • leatherback
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 8620
  • Thanks received: 3654

Replied by leatherback on topic Egg Shells

Posted 3 years 1 month ago #66827
Why are you arguing this?

You really think you are being helpfull for the OP?
by leatherback

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Tropfrog
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 4084
  • Thanks received: 1361

Replied by Tropfrog on topic Egg Shells

Posted 3 years 1 month ago #66831
No, I am not arguing. It is called discussion. Perfectly fine in a discussion forum. If it is helpful or not for Ivan is not up to me or you to decide.
Last Edit:3 years 1 month ago by Tropfrog
Last edit: 3 years 1 month ago by Tropfrog.
The following user(s) said Thank You: Ivan Mann

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Ivan Mann
  • Away Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 1747
  • Thanks received: 603

Replied by Ivan Mann on topic Egg Shells

Posted 3 years 1 month ago #66838
Sounds like they aren't going to be any help.

Our water is never acid and usually slightly alkaline. Water here already has some calcium in it, so egg shells would do nothing.

I was looking at all the eggshells we throw away thinking there must be something useful to do with them. I guess not.
by Ivan Mann

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Karma
  • Offline
  • Junior Member
  • Junior Member
  • Posts: 20
  • Thanks received: 1

Replied by Karma on topic Egg Shells

Posted 3 years 1 month ago #66840
Egg shells at worst case scenario would have no benefits and at the same time cause no harm at all to the plants and at best would add nutrients and benefit the plants.
by Karma

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • persimmon
  • Offline
  • Premium Member
  • Premium Member
  • Posts: 121
  • Thanks received: 54

Replied by persimmon on topic Egg Shells

Posted 3 years 1 month ago #66841
I throw all kitchen waste in the same bin (egg shells, meat, dairy, bones, you name it), and then use what they call EM (effective microorganisms?) to ferment them (outside of Japan the Japanese term "bokashi" is widely used, but here in Japan its just EM), and then I bury them in my backyard. Because of the anaerobic fermentation process, the compost has pH < 7, and maybe the egg shells balance it out? My vegetables seem to like it, so I haven't given it much thought, and, I already have enough bins for all kinds of garbage and don't want to begin sorting kitchen waste into different bins... For bonsai, I mostly use inorganic substrates (akadama + kiryu).

There's a lot of discussion on whether or not the EM fermentation is useful or not. What I see as a benefit is that stuff like meat/fish/dairy will not smell like dead corpse after a few weeks in the bin.
by persimmon

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Tropfrog
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 4084
  • Thanks received: 1361

Replied by Tropfrog on topic Egg Shells

Posted 3 years 1 month ago #66842

Ivan Mann wrote:
I was looking at all the eggshells we throw away thinking there must be something useful to do with them. I guess not.


One down, 14 left to try:

www.tasteofhome.com/collection/eggshell-uses/
by Tropfrog
The following user(s) said Thank You: Ivan Mann

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Ivan Mann
  • Away Topic Author
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 1747
  • Thanks received: 603

Replied by Ivan Mann on topic Egg Shells

Posted 3 years 1 month ago #66856
Eggshells in coffee is worth a try.
by Ivan Mann

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

  • Advandn
  • Offline
  • Banned
  • Banned
  • Posts: 103
  • Thanks received: 18

Replied by Advandn on topic Egg Shells

Posted 3 years 2 weeks ago #67410

Tropfrog wrote:

Ivan Mann wrote:
Egg shells are mostly calcium, and I would think that it would lower the pH of the soil, which might be good for some trees and bad for azaleas, etc.

Comment?


Calcium is totally ph neutral and dont affect ph at all. The eggs contains calcium carbonate, also called lime. When lime is broken down in a wet and acidic environment it releases calcium and carbonate. The carbonate part helps to neutralize the acidic environment and increase ph. If you have soil ph over neutral 7, lime will not break down and no effect on soil ph at all.

So egg shells will be very beneficial if you have acidic tap water and want to grow alkaline loving species. In this case you will find that egg shells not at all decompose slow, quite the opposite.

Very well explained! Thank you for the clarification.
by Advandn
The following user(s) said Thank You: Tropfrog

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.