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New Acer.. again 5 years 10 months ago #40601

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An other tree.. And I just went to buy some milk and eggs. The eggs I’ve forgot..

A. shirasawanum

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After I plunked out a handful of leaves..

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Sry, second picture from the wrong side..

So here we are now:

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We all do do the same. Switch eggs for trees.
But this is a very healthy acer! You will have to deal with the "Y" and define which branches to keep, and, of course, decide where to chop it (buy a bigger trashcan for the thousand leaves to be discarded).
Have fun!
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We all do do the same. Switch eggs for trees.

Happy to hear I’m not alone :) Maybe I can change eggs for leaves in the recipe too..

But this is a very healthy acer! You will have to deal with the "Y" and define which branches to keep, and, of course, decide where to chop it (buy a bigger trashcan for the thousand leaves to be discarded).
Have fun!

Thank you! Ah, I’m already in trouble to which side to keep, and wondering if I’m late for layering it (helpmeplz..). I would hate to scrap that big part.. The tree at minimum 55 cm from the root collar now, so you’re right, whatever side I keep, I must chop also.

Funny tree it is.. Have someone the same, but trained cultivar?

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nice find. I would start an air layer without hesitation if this is healthy. I would not however, have removed any foliage :). But you will be fine, I think.

After separating, ensure you remove the stum fully, and cover with cut paste to encourage the wound to close.

Where to layer is tricky. Hard to tell from a picture.
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nice find. I would start an air layer without hesitation if this is healthy.

Thanks :) I’ll go for it, just need to figure out what to keep, chop, layer. Few days, and I’ll coming out with a plan.

I would not however, have removed any foliage :). But you will be fine, I think.

Those typical “oups” moments.. :huh:

After separating, ensure you remove the stum fully, and cover with cut paste to encourage the wound to close.

I have some theories/questions in my mind.
It seems okay to take the layered branch in 3-4 month, cause no more sap flow there and already have calloused over the scar, but I’m not sure what phase the tree will be in that time. Me thinkets to wait until fall (even with cut paste) with the major cuts, or those which close to the trunk to prevent too much sap escaping. Am I over worrying?

Where to layer is tricky. Hard to tell from a picture.

I’ll give an around(ish..) plan later.

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Dont worry about bleeding. Tree blood is not human blood which runs out.. It really is just water with some sugars. When you are layering the tree is alreay closing down sap flow (i have concluded this, as i often see branches sprouting below layer site when rooting starts).

I personally separate as soon as roots have formed, giving the treee most time to seal the cut part (also that which goes into the ground!)

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Dont worry about bleeding. Tree blood is not human blood which runs out.. It really is just water with some sugars.

Yep, not a puppy ;) I don’t know. Read from almost everywhere that Acers are prone to weaken if we cut bigger branches in the wrong time. Anyway, it’ll be in full summer, so maybe less sap flow in that time..

When you are layering the tree is alreay closing down sap flow (i have concluded this, as i often see branches sprouting below layer site when rooting starts).

I personally separate as soon as roots have formed, giving the treee most time to seal the cut part (also that which goes into the ground!)


I’ll harvesting the layered part without hesitation, but my concern was, if the layer position will be much upper than the trunk (even with foliage), can I cut down the remaining stub to make flush with the tree in the same time? Of course with cut paste :)

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Not sure what you are asking...

As for cutting flush.. Two approaches are used: Some cut flush as soon as they separate the layer, or when they are trimming. Others leave a stub and trim that off once it has died off. Not sure which is the best as both approached have merit.
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Even if you didn’t understood, I’ve got the answer. It’s a healthy, chunky plant, so in this case I’ll cut in the same time when the layer is done.

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