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Black Monkey Thorn - my 2nd tree 5 years 8 months ago #42747

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Thankyou Leatherback.
firstly i have no idea how the rest of you reply to a specific sentence on another post.

so yes, this is the only tree I have of the species. i'm just starting out and only have 2 trees (other one is a juniper)
from what i understand they are very hardy trees, but scars heal very slowly.
yes, it is very small - total height about 15 cm - i got this as a styled bonsai at a nursery.
if you say let it grow, what would be a decent size to aim for?

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Black Monkey Thorn - my 2nd tree 5 years 8 months ago #42748

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i have found a pic that is sort of what i think will work for this one

o yes. thanx for that structure layout. so i still need a lot of new branches

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Black Monkey Thorn - my 2nd tree 5 years 8 months ago #42751

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Thankyou Leatherback.
firstly i have no idea how the rest of you reply to a specific sentence on another post.


Like this?
Instead of reply, hit "quote". You can then edit the quoted text, as long as you leave the parts in the squared brackets.

If you look at a number of bonsai in the style, look very closely at the leaves and the transition of the thick trunk into the branchlets. This should give you an indication of the size of the tree. I have found that I normally underestimate the size of bonsai from pictures.It would not surpise me if someone told me the tree you just showed as an example is perhaps half a metre tall.

The size is important because of the amount of detail you can add. Say that each level of branching has 1/3 of the thickned of the previous level (Main branches are ideally max 1/3 of the trunk size): A trunk of 1/2 cm thick only allows for 2 levels of branching, after which you run out of branch (first branch = 1/3 of trunk = 1 2/3 mm. Second branch 1/3 of first branch = 0.5mm...

Also, each leaf needs space. So a small canopy can only hold a limited number of leaves, reducing the complexity of the canopy, and th illusion of a miniature tree.
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Black Monkey Thorn - my 2nd tree 5 years 7 months ago #43983

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Pierneef style and creating 2 canopies - one for each trunk.


I think Pierneef is a great plan!.
I particularly love this style, even not having any trees suitable to Pierneef; well, maybe the Brazilian Rain Tree, but I've got other plans for the BRT.
Keep us posted, Stella!

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Black Monkey Thorn - my 2nd tree 5 years 7 months ago #44047

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(skip the one from Bonsaiboy, their care guidelines are not useful)


Is this generally true for them, or just a couple of care guides? I have been collecting advice from various places for the trees I have and haven't noticed anything from them particularly outrageous.

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Black Monkey Thorn - my 2nd tree 5 years 7 months ago #44048

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(skip the one from Bonsaiboy, their care guidelines are not useful)


Is this generally true for them, or just a couple of care guides? .


Look up guidelines for a couple of species on their site Notice that they will often be identical. They just copy/pasted and repaced the name of the species. Do not go there if you need care guidelines for a specific species.

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Black Monkey Thorn - my 2nd tree 5 years 7 months ago #44049

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Auk is right.
It's all copy/paste over there.

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Black Monkey Thorn - my 2nd tree 5 years 5 months ago #45240

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some work i have done on my little tree:
did a hard prune in July
planted in a training pot in Aug
yesterday i did some wiring

here is some pics
before wiring


trying to find the best gap between the trunks:


then decide it look better from the other side after this 1st wire is in. new front:


1st styling done by me (without any help from a club member) (hand for size reference):

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here is more or less what i think this could be

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