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Small Pinus Pentaphylla (JWP)

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Posted 4 years 1 month ago #56774
Hi all,
I've started shaping a little JWP I've got since one year.
No pruning done so far, just wiring - what do you think (pics show before and after)?
Thanks for your feedback!
P.S. I do not like that blue glazed pot for a conifer so I'll repot it next year (and it's inside just for the pictures...)
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Posted 4 years 1 month ago #56778
I like what you did! However, I think that you may have the wrong side as front. But that is an issue for next repotting. For now, just let it recover and grow.
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Posted 4 years 1 month ago #56795
Thanks Tropfrog for your feedback!
In fact I was unsure myself.. The issue is the mallsai S-shaped trunk that bends straight towards the observer.
If I turn it 180 degrees, it kind of "escapes" the sight, so that's why I've chosen that front...
I am adding a few more pics from different angles (front, back, right, left).
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Posted 4 years 1 month ago #56801
Yes, I see what you mean. The problem with two dimentional photos. Not so obvious to me what I would do anymore. I Think, if you keep the front the way it is, the forward pointing branch could be an issue. In the long run it needs to go or bend in other direction. But leave it for now. It might well work as future leader.
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Posted 3 years 11 months ago #58765
Hi all,
I'm looking for advice on my JWP... it's doing well and I was waiting for its stronger candles to elongate till about 3-4 cm and cut them by half, to let the weaker ones develop more.
But I do not see them actually getting longer.. but rather they seem to be kind of "opening" themselves.
This is my first growing season with a JWP, I've just read about it on books so far, so I'm inexperienced.
The tree is exposed to full, direct sun from about 7:30 a.m till noon-1 p.m, then it's in shade, though still in a bright spot.
What do you think?
Thanks for your advice!
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Posted 3 years 11 months ago #58766
After cutting the candles, they dont grow anymore, but opens in due time. This is perfectly normal. If healthy you Will see one more flush of growth this year. If you are in the northern hemisphere and it is spring now that is.
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Posted 3 years 11 months ago #58767
Hi Tropfrog, thanks for your answer... though my post maybe was not 100% clear.
In fact I was waiting for the candles to get longer but they actually did not... so I have not cut them yet.
I was expecting them to grow longer than this but they are starting to open whilst remaining relatively short - so I have a doubt whether cutting the "longer" ones (currently no more than 2 cm) makes sense... or if I shall let it as it is, this year.
Yes in am in the northern emisphere (Milan, northern Italy).
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Posted 3 years 11 months ago #58769
It is too early to be pinching candles, they need to extend. It does depend on what you want for the tree. If that is as big as you want it to be, then you need to be holding the growth on the apex and allowing the lower branches to grow.If you want it taller then you need to allow the candles to elongate and not pinch/prune
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Posted 3 years 11 months ago #58778
Thanks a lot Geoff for your feedback.
Well, as you can see this is a very young tree so I do not have a precise shaping plan in my mind yet..
Surely I would like the apex to grow further, but without this being detrimental to the development of the lower branches.
Having said that, I should not pinch or prune any candle for the time being, correct?
Thanks again!
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Posted 3 years 11 months ago #58787
I do not have the long standing experience of JWP that some others here seem to have. But, in places where JWP are weak (Particularly dry and hot summers are difficult for them), you do not prune the candles. You let them extend fully. IN fall you clean out old needles, wire and trim back branches that have gotten too long, pushing growth in with new buds showing up in spring on trimmed branches.

I always understood that you avoid white pine candle pruning.
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