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japanese black pine and Japanese Wisteria care 3 years 1 month ago #15076

Hello guys,
I'm new to this so forgive me if I will ask something stupid here.
I planted japanese black pine and wisteria seeds about a month ago and today noticed that finally in pine pot it has "bloomed" out of soil.
and this is where my problem starts :( I don't know how to take care of it from this point onward.
please help me :( suggestions, advice/tips ?
I don't know how to water it (frequency)
when should i change the soil ? right now it is in forest soil. and plastic pot.
currently for drainage I'm using small stones and plastic foam in both pots.
for now only pine has "bloomed", I'm still waiting for wisteria to show himself

thank you very very very much in advance


this is my "bloomed" pine seed's picture
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japanese black pine and Japanese Wisteria care 3 years 1 month ago #15081

Sorry for the "thank you", I clicked it by accident.

First of all, i am not to sure or cannot see clearly that the seed has germinated. It would be better to get any kind of seed compost, if you cannot get it then i would say that you could try normal compost. If you intend to create actuall bonsai i would not say "stop now! It is a waste of time!" i will say that it will take a good ten years of growth to get suitable material to work with. But before you start growing i would recommend a good study on this subject:

www.bonsaiempire.com/basics

Water when the soil starts to dry out (with bonsai trees) with seeds, try to maintain a steady-ish moisture level. Ou could just use gravel for drainage, or "crocks".
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japanese black pine and Japanese Wisteria care 3 years 1 month ago #15083

thank you for watering advice,

and also thank you for the word "germinated" spent quite a time to find that word but ended up using "bloomed" :D
as for the bonsai, I'm not in a rush so it can take as long as it wants. it is my first child from seeds after all.
previously I "created", if i can say so, bonsai that actually were Cut and subsequently rooted raw branches of grown trees of Pomegranate and persimmon, planted in Seashells.

about compost, well it was sold to me as seed compost and I guess it's best I can get in my country :/ and about picture, I know it is not clear picture since it was taken by my phone I was not able to focus correctly, it looks just like Bristled cone twig and that's why I assumed that my pine germinated. god I'm so anxious to see if it is really the pine (I am using google translate so, sorry if I'm writing something non understandable)
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japanese black pine and Japanese Wisteria care 3 years 1 month ago #15085

Please post the picture in the forum. Your link has now already stopped working.

As for care.. Pine like to be on the dry side, but not a single tree likes dried out.. Soaking wet soil is dificult.
Leave it as it is. There are a number of good websites dealign with growing pine from seed for bonsai and I woudl recommend having a read.
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japanese black pine and Japanese Wisteria care 3 years 1 month ago #15089

To get wisteria flowers out of a seedling takes a lot of time,10/15 years if your lucky, some wil never flower.i think your better off with a cutting.

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iamaghlobeli wrote: (I am using google translate so, sorry if I'm writing something non understandable)


Seems to work pretty good though. What's your native language?
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Orlando wrote: To get wisteria flowers out of a seedling takes a lot of time,10/15 years if your lucky, some wil never flower.i think your better off with a cutting.
Cheers


as i said, I'm not in a rush so, both of them can take as long as they want ^_^ just taking care of them and having them grow from seeds are more then enough. blooming wisteria will be just an pleasant gift

Auk wrote: Seems to work pretty good though. What's your native language?

glad to hear that. my native language is Georgian.


P.S. all the advice's and tips are taken and will do my best to make them grow in healthy fine trees/bonsai (time will show)
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