Choosing a front
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Hiya folks!
Total beginner, but I have a few trees that I've been working on and I am now trying my hand at styling from nursery stock. I found this JWP that I liked for a few reasons and while I won't be doing any pruning until the fall (in Seattle) I am starting to think about how I might approach working on this tree.
I cleaned up the surface soil, removed dead foliage and dead branches, just to kind of start to see the structure.
I am struggling selecting a front. Torn between (1) and (2) - annotated in the image. I can share what I am seeing with my untrained eye but curious what you'd pick between all 4...
1. Has interesting nebari (IMO) - the criss-cross roots that come towards the viewer is interesting to me, the first right branch is positioned well, and there's good movement to the trunk line (not shown well in the picture).
2. Has good base, gentle S curve, good first branch, and ok taper at first. I think the second branch is well-positioned towards the back? But there's inverse taper issues and its hard for me to figure out how to style the left and apex
So I'm torn. I am curious if folks have any advice? Are you seeing problems that I am missing as a beginner?
For what it's worth I am leaning towards (2) right now...
Total beginner, but I have a few trees that I've been working on and I am now trying my hand at styling from nursery stock. I found this JWP that I liked for a few reasons and while I won't be doing any pruning until the fall (in Seattle) I am starting to think about how I might approach working on this tree.
I cleaned up the surface soil, removed dead foliage and dead branches, just to kind of start to see the structure.
I am struggling selecting a front. Torn between (1) and (2) - annotated in the image. I can share what I am seeing with my untrained eye but curious what you'd pick between all 4...
1. Has interesting nebari (IMO) - the criss-cross roots that come towards the viewer is interesting to me, the first right branch is positioned well, and there's good movement to the trunk line (not shown well in the picture).
2. Has good base, gentle S curve, good first branch, and ok taper at first. I think the second branch is well-positioned towards the back? But there's inverse taper issues and its hard for me to figure out how to style the left and apex
So I'm torn. I am curious if folks have any advice? Are you seeing problems that I am missing as a beginner?
For what it's worth I am leaning towards (2) right now...
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In my opinion it is not possible to determine what is the best front based on those pictures.
You have the tree at hand and can spend hours on watching every detail of it in 3d. just figure out what you like and go with it!
You have the tree at hand and can spend hours on watching every detail of it in 3d. just figure out what you like and go with it!
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I agree, it is not possible to say, but in pic 2 there are too many branches and it is starting to cause inverse taper. You need to select and remove at least 2 possibly 3. Is it grafted onto Black Pine?
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It does not look like a grafted tree too Me.
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Yeah that's totally fair - figured maybe there are obvious flaws (to others more experienced) that are easier or harder to hide / correct from certain angles that I am just not seeing as a beginner.In my opinion it is not possible to determine what is the best front based on those pictures.
You have the tree at hand and can spend hours on watching every detail of it in 3d. just figure out what you like and go with it!
I don't know for sure whether the tree is grafted or not, but I kinda assumed that it is? From what I understand it's more common to find JWP grafted on JBP roots than with its own roots. I think I can see the graft scar on the base but what do I know, it could be normal
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