Chinese Elm, reddish spots on new leaves, help?

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Posted 3 years 8 months ago #73967
Seeing the other pictures you posted, i think you don't have spider mites.
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Posted 3 years 8 months ago #73969
Alright, thanks for the information guys. I have ordered a magnifying glass so hopefully I will be able to see the mites if they exist.

I will continue to do research on why deciduous trees need to go dormant if seasonal elements are not at play. There are many sources that say indoor deciduous trees will die after a few years if they don't ever go dormant but I am not seeing a biological explanation for the cause of death.

Maybe I can put the tree outside in April when its closer to 30-50 degrees F, or something like that. Not sure if there is a room in my house that has both sunlight and cooler temperatures.
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Posted 3 years 8 months ago #73971
Chinese elm is not a deciduous tree. It is semi decidious.
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Posted 3 years 8 months ago #73972
Looking at the plant, it looks like nutrient deficiency might be a problem. This could be cause by actual lack of nutrients in the soil, or by the soil having an unsuitable PH (Normally too high: basic).

I see no reason to assume there are pests in your plant. If you are concerned: Take a piece of white paper. Hold it below the branch and tap the branch a few times. Slide your hand over the paper. If you get red streaks you have mites.

The plant IS lacking light, as indicated by the stretched branches with few leaves on them.

As for the plant going dormant: Plants are living beings. Similar as them having a light and a dark phase (Day/Night), in which different chemical processes operate, they have seasonal cycles in which nutrient stores, energy etc are moved around. Temperate plants have distinct growing and resting seasons, but even in summer most plants do not grow continuously: They have spurts of above-ground growth, root growth and just "energy accumulation". Tropical species ALSO have these patterns, albeit often less obvious.

Can you keep an elm indoors? Absolutely. Also yearround. No problem. But in winter it will have to have a phase in which you place it drier, cool and allow it to go dormant. Often, a bedroom is a good place (Unless you heat your bedroom!). Do not worry too much about sunlight when you keep it cool and drier: It will not grow much, and will normally drop a few leaves. If kept outside, it needs to be outside some 6 weeks before first frost is expected, so it can naturally adapt to winter. Do not put it outside now if you are experience frosty nights. It *might* be OK, but it can get damaged too

In general, all plants are happier outside than inside, assuming the climatic conditions match their accepted ranges. Natural cycles in humidity, temperature and light are dificult to mimic indoors.
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Posted 3 years 8 months ago #73982

Well, trees have evolved thrue thousands of years to the conditions. Dont ask me why trees that needs dormancy needs dormancy. I just know that they do.

Why do we need to sleep at night?

Well, for plants, maybe the answer is that they evolved to respond to weather changes by dormancy every year. If the environment is not what they evolved in, they cannot be healthy, and may die (the nadir of ill health).
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